Benjamin Schiemer and Elke Schüßler (both at the Institute of Organization Science) and Tobias Theel (Freie Universität Berlin) have published findings from a comparative ethnography of a physical songwriting camp and an online platform for songwriting in "Organization Studies", a leading management journal on the FT 50 journal list. Their study "Regulating Nimbus and Focus: Organizing Copresence for Creative Collaboration", opens an external URL in a new window is a result of a collaboration as part of the DFG-funded Research Unit "Organized Creativity", opens an external URL in a new window The study focuses on developing conceptual notions of converging and diverging co-presence, meaning actively and mutually gravitating toward one another (which can be more or less focused), but is necessary to support creative collaboration. Specifically, the researchers found that co-presence needs to actively be organized irrespective of the spatial setting and the technological modalities used, although different organizing challenges arose in the two settings. An oscillation between converging and diverging forms of co-presence is necessary in order to switch between moments of intense and focused collaboration on creative ideas and a more open "hanging out" session that facilitates serendipitous encounters. These insights have implications for wider research about organizational spaces to collaborate, such as co-working spaces or open offices where participants often avoid collaborating. Benjamin, Elke and Tobias would argue that this happens because there is either no co-presence, or prolonged states of converging, or diverging co-presence are perceived as stressful and uncomfortable.